Riot平衡英雄的方式by Phreak

2010-10-31 22:17 作者: 来源:原创 手机订阅 神评论
这个帖解释了Ryze和卡牌重做的原因,以及Evelynn这种高端局没人选的英雄为什么没有被Buff

我曾明确地要求改动末日之兆Fiddlesticks,并且说实在的,我也想削弱掷弹勇士Corki,但因他的玩家群数量不大,因此这还算不上一项十分首要的任务。

因此,说实在的,发生的事情基本上可以归为2类:

某个角色太弱了,比如猛男克星Evelynn,但仍能蹂躏休闲玩家……这样的话,我们仍然会保持他们孱弱的现状。这点在Zileas的采访中曾明确指出过。是的,那就意味着除非她在某种程度上被重做,否则就不会出现在高端局中。我们还有40多个其他英雄可以玩,所以是否能在一个锦标赛的战术中选择猛男克星Evelynn,我真的不在意。

这是我们在beta版中重做流浪法师Ryze的部分原因,也许也是下个补丁削弱流浪法师Ryze大招的部分原因。每局都对抗固定的英雄,真的没什么乐趣。并且说实在的,流浪法师Ryze在3v3地图中是高端角色。记得2周前的那些呼吁“增强蒙多”帖子么?记得那些当蒙多出现后,抱怨“这尼玛!RIOT ,蒙多太TM强力了,你TM做了些什么?”的帖子么?以上。

然后是另一类:某些英雄,在玩家的技巧达到一定水平后确实不错,比如掷弹勇士Corki和冰晶凤凰Anivia,但是还没能被大部分玩家所充分利用。在英雄反馈区有个帖子问为什么Corki没有被增强。我点了进去,并写了一整页Corki很强的理由。接下来的3个回帖是“WOW,Phreak,你在愚弄我们么?我只看过Corki死成书!”所以,我猜我们也没有什么必要削弱Corki了。并且说实在的,从能力方面来看的话,他也不是蛮力巨牛Alistar或者宝石骑士Taric,所以真的不算是一个需要优先处理的争论点。没错,他在锦标赛中表现不错,不过锦标赛有禁选(Banlist)以及其它限制,并且如果Corki真的成为争论点了,我们将会在需要的时候解决他。

所以在猛男克星Evelynn这点上,如Zileas所言,假如一个英雄,对于我们的绝大部分玩家来说是个争论点,那么他就是一个争论点。我们是否“正确”,以及是否拥有可能的反制手段来对付他,是无关紧要的。例如,好的玩家知道买眼,买反隐药水,等等。但Evelynn照样蹂躏休闲玩家。除了重做她的机制外,我们没有增强她的真正理由。甚至如果Fiddle被“从技术上平衡”,对于我们的大部分玩家来说,对抗他仍然没有什么乐趣。或许削弱了大招的AP加成,或许降低了E技能的飞行速度或者弹跳次数,但他仍然可以登场,就像Ryze仍然是3v3地图上的强势英雄一样。重点是要让对抗他变得有趣,并且这点真的是在设计任何英雄时的重要目标之一:在与他作战时,我在理论上能够做出有效的应对么?或者我做什么也无济于事?这就是卡牌大师的大招不再减速的原因。不管你在做什么,突然被减速得只能慢慢爬行,然后他带着金牌从你的头上着陆。(看来Phreak被卡牌虐得够多的……)

原文:
Originally Posted by Phreak  
I specifically asked for Fiddlesticks changes, and to be honestly, I want Corki nerfs too, but because he's not that big of an issue for the player base at large, this isn't really an important task yet.

So there's basically two things that happen, to be honest:


Character's that are too weak, like Evelynn, but stomp on casual players... well we're going to keep them weak. This was specified in Zileas's interview. Yes that means that unless she is remade to an extent, she won't become top-tier viable. We have 40+ other champions to play, so I really don't care that I can't FP Evelynn as a tournament strategy.


This was part of the reason we had the Ryze remake in beta, and maybe even part of the reason Ryze's ultimate was nerfed next patch. It's really not fun to fight against for certain champions. And to be honest, Ryze is a top tier champion on Treeline. Remember all those "buff Mundo" posts dating back from 2 weeks ago to the inception of the champion? Remember all those "HOLY **** RIOT MUNDO IS OP WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" when Mundo came out? That.


Then on the flip side there are certain champions that are really good at certain skill levels, like Corki and Anivia, that just aren't utilized in a lot of skill tiers. There was a thread in Champion Feedback asking why Corki hasn't been buffed. I went in and wrote a full page on why Corki was awesome. The next 3 posts were "Wow Phreak, are you trolling us? I've only seen him feed!" So in those cases, I guess we don't need to nerf Corki in general. And to be honest, he's not Alistar or Taric in terms of power, so it's really not a high priority issues. Sure he's great in a tournament setting, but tournaments have bans and such, and if Corki really becomes an issue, we'll deal him when we need to.


So on the Evelynn point, as Zileas has said, if a champion is an issue for too many of our players, then it's an issue. It doesn't matter if we're "right" and he has possible counters. For example, good players know to get Wards, Oracles, etc. But Evelynn stomps casual players. We have no real reason to buff her without reworking some of her mechanics. Even if Fiddle is "technically balanced," he's not fun to fight against for a lot of our players. Maybe the AP ratio on Crowstorm gets nerfed, maybe the number of bounces or the projectile speed of Dark Wind gets changed. He's still going to be viable, just as Ryze is still an excellent champion on Twisted Treeline. The point is he will become more fun to play against, and that's really one of the primary goals when designing any champion: Is there anything I can actually do to combat him, or am I screwed no matter what? That's why Destiny doesn't slow anymore. No matter what you're doing, you were slowed to a crawl, and he was going to land on top of you with a Gold Card.
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